Question for TC.

[Big454blockchevy]

I just came from the last.gen board and they have something going down there cuz of some new emmission testing. This particular guy is all pissed cuz this is going on and he has been letting the cops have it on "copland". The cops ofcoarse are responding to his comments and that is when your username came up. Check it out www.lastgen.com (http://www.lastgen.com)

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[This message has been edited by Big454blockchevy (edited 02-06-2001).]

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[Bullit]

a vehicle cannot be seized for merely violating an emmissions law. the EPA's clean air act states that anything that produces a gas or chemical that causes 'an immediate threat of serious bodily harm or death' can be seized and destroyed. a car violating an emmissions law will only result in fines. txdps has a mobile emmissions testing unit that will test vehicles, but they will only receive an 'informative citation' to correct the problem.

[TC]

Jesus Christ, Bullit, read back to my prior posts, will you?

We're not talking about failing the sniffer test. They're ENFORCING THE LACK OF EMISSIONS EQUIPMENT. Nothing you're posting has anything remotely to do with what I've been saying. You can pass a sniffer test without emissions equipment. You just have to have a few tricks up your sleeve. http://www.3rdgen.org/ubb/wink.gif

Like I said in another thread, call DPD Northwest division and ask them if you want to doubt me like this. This is their puppy and they'll tell you I'm not full of shit.

[Bullit]

i'm not saying you're full of it. i saw where the clean air act was mentioned as the basis for this and the clean air act does not allow for a vehicle to be destroyed, or seized, over the lack of a catalytic converter or something. all it does is assess fines for removing the equipment. now if it causes an immediate threat to someone's life, then it can be immediately destroyed, but a vehicle missing a few emmissions items wouldn't constitute an immediate threat. i'm sure there is some fluke law about it, but i strongly doubt that any car will be seized over a missing emmissions item. have you ever been through the paperwork to seize a vehicle? it takes about 1 year to actually get possession of it. it's by far not an easy task. to me, i think dpd is wasting their time if they even attempt something like this. sure you can spread the intimidation with it, but seriously. who are they kidding? missing emmissions equipment will not deter street racing. i would imagine the dps will do some inspections, but i don't think they will have any part in this seizing stuff. dpd is looking to get a good @ss reaming in court soon. i posted around here somewhere the actual penalties for removing emmissions items from a vehicle required to have them. it's listed in the epa's clean air act of 1970. i'm glad my department has never instigated something like this. i don't doubt they honestly told you, and i'm sure everyone appreciates the heads up, but if i had a car that was involved in a seizure over emmissions, i'd have me a nice new, fat ride courtesy of the dpd.

[dano]

You (Bullit) said that a car can not be siezed? I thought in another state that they were doing this if you did not have insurance. Why would that be any different? They need to do that with the drunks. You can take anyone DL and they will just get another car. Take the car and they have to walk.

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[Bullit]

in texas, if you don't have a dl or insurance i can impound the car, put you on foot (or arrest you) and make someone show up with a dl and insurance to claim it. when they do, i can write them for allowing an unlicensed driver to operate a motor vehicle. seizing a car and impounding a car are two totally different things. seizing is basically removing ownership. it's a long drawn out process to get that done though and you have to meet certain criteria. you have to show it was used as a mechanism of a crime.