GM 10-bolt vs. Borg Warner 10-bolt.

[gmachinz]

Okay, how can you tell the difference between the two from the outside? Are the axle splines different? I am going to the junkyard for a friend in search of a replacement axle and he ran across this issue in a Chilton repair manual. Anybody have a clue on this? The Borg Warner requires a special tool of some sort for axle removal and the standard GM 10-bolt does not. -Jabin

[nightrider]

its the borg warner 9 bolt.

it's got 9 bolts on the diff cover.

[Mcdamit]

stronger larger rearend, GM 7.5, to BW 7.75

[TraviZ]

not only that, the BG 9bolt does not use wimpy C clips.

both axles interchange with each other to an extent. no special tools are required to remove either axle. 9bolt and 10bolt have different break setups though so be careful. i can tel you more if interested.

[MonteC]

Originally posted by Mcdamit
stronger larger rearend, GM 7.5, to BW 7.75

w0w! .25 of an inch makes it alot stronger, and larger huh? dumbass.

[Mcdamit]

wtf fuck monte, yes as stated fucking above the 9bolt is fucking stronger, i have one on my roc and i had a 10 bolt on the old beater, the 9 bolt holds larger gear though its a bitch to find setups for so you fuck off rob

[MonteC]

Originally posted by Mcdamit
wtf fuck monte, yes as stated fucking above the 9bolt is fucking stronger, i have one on my roc and i had a 10 bolt on the old beater, the 9 bolt holds larger gear though its a bitch to find setups for so you fuck off rob

OMG!!!! LETS ALL GET A 9 BOLT B\C THERE THE STRONGEST REAR ENDS IN THE WORLD!!!!11111

[Mcdamit]

robert, they are a better rear end, why are you gonna recommend the older cheaper rear. no they are not the strongest but are better suited to a racing application than almost any 7 1/2" rear, so quite down rob and and go crawl into the junkyard that was once a backyard.

[MonteC]

Originally posted by Mcdamit
robert, they are a better rear end, why are you gonna recommend the older cheaper rear. no they are not the strongest but are better suited to a racing application than almost any 7 1/2" rear, so quite down rob and and go crawl into the junkyard that was once a backyard.


i never recommened the 10 bolt.

i think both the 9 bolt and the 10 bolt are garbage for SERIOUS drag racing.

go do your middle school homework. dont wanna fail the 8th grade.

[Mcdamit]

i dont know, there are 9 &10 bolts in the 10's and 11's, and for a stock rear that ain't bad. I dont do homework

[MonteC]

Originally posted by Mcdamit
i dont know.


exactly.


please find me evidence of a STOCK third gen rear end in the 10's. that means with the same axles , ring and pinion, and everthing that came in the car when it was assembled in the factory.

if u dont do your homework your gonna fail the 8th grade again. then your dad will be a grade ahead of u.

[Mcdamit]

I don't know was a reciprocating figure of speech in my vocabulary; somewhat like umm, in yours MonteC. In other words, I was trying to figure out what I was going to state.

[Mcdamit]

if you dont know what that means for the simple minded SC'ers here it means, I say it alot and it is a replacement for umm, or hmm.

[MonteC]

do you even know what the word reciprocating means? the way u used it just proves your a dumbass.

and still have not shown me any proof.

[fuquefrance]

Listening (or watching) you two duke it out on a board seriously makes me laugh harder than the time when my buddy kicked his left rear tire which threw out his driveshaft on the parking lot! And you can imagine how funny that would be to witness.

Here's my advice...drill your own fucking holes and weld another piece of metal to make it a 13" 18 bolt 3.73 rear.

[nightrider]

hahahahah...not funny

[MonteC]

Originally posted by fuquefrance
Listening (or watching) you two duke it out on a board seriously makes me laugh harder than the time when my buddy kicked his left rear tire which threw out his driveshaft on the parking lot! And you can imagine how funny that would be to witness.

Here's my advice...drill your own fucking holes and weld another piece of metal to make it a 13" 18 bolt 3.73 rear.


omg! ive been insulted by some new horsefucker! you do realize that bringing up month old threads and stickin in your opionion with out any real tech answers is pretty gay.

reading your post make me laugh.

[Mcdamit]

reciprocating- to repeat, ie. reciprocating saw(saws all) or engine, it does the same damn thing over and over, me i constantly do the same shit over and over and over. Example: fight with you

[Mcdamit]

proof of what?, i know biff has a few 9 bolts, nightrider might have one. Now if you excuse me i have a nosebleed.

[scubas_90rs]

are you sure that your pussy isn't bleeding you little bitch

[MonteC]

Originally posted by scubas_90rs
are you sure that your pussy isn't bleeding you little bitch


thank you.

[Mcdamit]

naw that was your girls twat after i got done with her, or should i say my new girlfriends twat. Anyway Monte what proof

[MonteC]

are u stupid? i said proof a 9 or 10 bolt thirdgen rear end in the 10's.

[Mcdamit]

you want a thirdgen. ok ill look

[scubas_90rs]

Originally posted by MonteC
thank you.
your welcome

[Jeremy]

Originally posted by MonteC
are u stupid? i said proof a 9 or 10 bolt thirdgen rear end in the 10's.

I can give you proof of several 10 second 4thgens in the 10's, which have the same rearend essentially, and they are heavier cars.. all are autos with large stalls, though.

Not to back up McDamit or anything, just saying..

And the 7.75" ring gear size isn't the only difference, the BW 9-bolts have the carrier main caps closer together for more rigidity, and more pinion gears in the carrier...

[MonteC]

Originally posted by Jeremy
I can give you proof of several 10 second 4thgens in the 10's, which have the same rearend essentially, and they are heavier cars.. all are autos with large stalls, though.

Not to back up McDamit or anything, just saying..

And the 7.75" ring gear size isn't the only difference, the BW 9-bolts have the carrier main caps closer together for more rigidity, and more pinion gears in the carrier...

i know plenty of 4th gens running sub 11.5 on the stock 10 bolt.

im still waiting on a thirdgen...

[Mcdamit]

i found a 10 bolt but it isn't a 7.5". give me a few

[Jeremy]

Originally posted by MonteC
i know plenty of 4th gens running sub 11.5 on the stock 10 bolt.

im still waiting on a thirdgen...

They are an identical differential, the only difference is housing and axle length.. and 3rdgens weigh less. So don't you think it's safe to assume that the same could be done with a 3rdgen? There are just more people building fast 4thgens..

[MonteC]

Originally posted by Jeremy
They are an identical differential, the only difference is housing and axle length.. and 3rdgens weigh less. So don't you think it's safe to assume that the same could be done with a 3rdgen? There are just more people building fast 4thgens..

what about material? i have no clue, but did they use a stronger alloy? im sure theres something that was done better to the 4th gen rear to make it better and a little stronger.

there are plenty of people out there building up thirdgens, theres gotta be a reason why 80's 7.5"s are feared like they black plauge.

[Jeremy]

Originally posted by MonteC
there are plenty of people out there building up thirdgens, theres gotta be a reason why 80's 7.5"s are feared like they black plauge.

Newer 7.5's don't have a good reputation either. "My uncle's cousin's wife's son blew his up, so it's crap."

[MonteC]

ok

[Mcdamit]

maybe because the internals were built like shit the rear itself can hold alot but yeah most maro's rear are kinda stripped

[MonteC]

Originally posted by Mcdamit
maybe because the internals were built like shit the rear itself can hold alot but yeah most maro's rear are kinda stripped

what?!? idiot.

[Mcdamit]

the stock internal gearing sucks not the rear itself,

[costill92rs]

no the rear itself sucks, it can be made stronger with a few mods, but no matter what, with repeated track use on slicks will kill it, not if but when