header question

[chvy83z28]

Im a little new to these forums, i just wanted to ask of your opinions: I have a 83 z28 with a 350. edlebrock 600 and rpm intake is goin on it in the spring. im looking into headers. i want shorties either hooker or heddman. i heard the hooker has a louder deeper tone but i dont know about the heddman and i would like to have 3 inch exhaust from y pipe to flowmaster super 40 with dual 3 inch outs. oh and i dont have any of that polution garbage.

any suggestions on headers or exhaust?

thanks

[88camarosc]

two words... straight pipes...

[NOMAD]

Headers aren't going to matter much on the tone. Thats where the exhaust piping and the muffler come into play. We have heddmans on heathers car and the access to the passengers side sucks, so maybe hookers are better...

-Shannon

[chvy83z28]

hmm, well i cant exactically run straight pipes....yet. as far as the space on either side of the engine, there is tons...i have the a/c delete box so when i finally do it i can rip that old pos box out.

still leaves me with my only question: hooker or heddman?

or atleast any web sites that compare the two or anything lol

[CamaroGirl5.0]

Hi AJ :wavey:

*Takes this header question down for reference for future project car*

[MonteC]

headers dont make or break the sound. they do help with letting more flow which will help your mufflers make a deeper sound. id go with the hookers.
as for the exhaust system, what u put sounds good. althought the super 40 does sound good its not a very good flowing muffler, infact its one of the worst flowing mufflers.

[chvy83z28]

hmm, wel nothing is definate yet, any suggestions for a muffler then?

[BronYrAur]

Look at the Hooker 2055's and get them without the AIR tubes if you don't have emissions requirements. They're 1 5/8" primaries into 3" collector and Y pipe. Then just go full 3" back with the flowmaster you're talking about, that should work out pretty good for you. Those Hookers are some of the best shorties for thirdgens.

[chvy83z28]

I thought they only made those 2055's emission legal, i looked around a little bit and could only find the emission ones. i like the 3in out though :)

[BronYrAur]

Yeah I think they do only make them with AIR, you're right. I'd still probably get them cause the price is good and they fit right and flow well. You could just remove the tubes and plug the holes. If you really don't want the AIR tubes maybe look at some SLPs

[chvy83z28]

heres an update: i was under my car today just lookin around, finding some more body/frame/chassis rust and holes :( anyways i looked at my pipe that goes from the cat to the muffler and its brand new and 2.5in :( my cat i think is that double cat setup and the stock y pipe is really wierd. its like a 3inch oval or soemthing. not perfectly round, so now i basically need a lot to put headers on it. i could replace my cat but then that would cancle out the fact as to why the one i have is empty...so i dont know what to do here. any ideas?

[BronYrAur]

I thought you were going to replace it all?? Go with those headers above, they come with a 3" y-pipe. Then just get something like a catco 3" cat or a 3" straight pipe in its place (cheapest way, especially if you dont need emissions) then get your 3" catback. Wasn't that your plan all along?

edit: wait I didn't see what you were sayin, you have two cats? If that's the case they make headers and Y's for the dual cat setup too, or just convert over to a single cat setup.

[chvy83z28]

yeah i prob will just replace the whole thing, better off anyways. i cant find those headers without the air tubes, unless you know where i could get them? i checked summit and jegs and would rather not have to fill in the holes, wouldnt look as nice imo.

i was just kinda hopeing i had 3in on there now but all well

[1tinindian]

I've got Heddman shorties on mine.
JetHot coated, and I love them.
No problem with the install, and I
have A/C also.
Just need to weld that damn y-pipe together.
I have no emissions, and a cat delete pipe,
back to a DynoMax cat-back system.
I think it sounds great. Not too load, but people
can hear me coming, when I'm on it.

[transambill]

Get the Hookers suggested above. Cap off the air as suggested or cut the smog stuff off and weld the holes shut then have them ceramic coated.

[chvy83z28]

thats an option but ive seen them welded up and look like crap, id rather not mess with that im most likely going to buy them painted then get them ceramic coated somewhere else like jet hot or something. and i want to see if i can get hookers, if all else fails then yeah ill just have it all welded up but that costs money cause i sure as hell cant do it lol

[MonteC]

well if u dont want the hookers, go with the headdmans. muffler? go with the dynomax or magnaflow, pretty decent mufflers.

[chvy83z28]

so far i think im gonna get the hooker 2460's they have 3 inch outs but i dont think they have a y-pipe:( but painted they are only $150

montec, do you know if there is a website or something with soundclips of the magnaflow and dynomax?

[MonteC]

http://www.magnaflow.com/04sound/04american.asp


http://www.a-1performance.com/sounds/

http://exhaustsoundclips.com/phpbb2/dload.php?sid=947da9a1ae67b1ac7fc537dcb82295c7



that should do ya.

google's great..

[chvy83z28]

ok i found hooker headers on summit racing for $325 w/ceramic coating. but no y-pipe. I was told yesterday by one of my friends that a 3 inch exhaust all the way back would be overkill because the 350's need the back pressure. can someone verify this?
as far as my y-pipe i can get a 3inch out one for $100 also made by hooker just painted black, would it be safer to just get the 3in one and just downsize it for the current time this way the option is there for upgrading later on when i get my 383?
thanks guys and girls :)

monte, thos clips sound good, now i dont know what muffler i want lol

[MonteC]

Originally posted by chvy83z28
I was told yesterday by one of my friends that a 3 inch exhaust all the way back would be overkill because the 350's need the back pressure. can someone verify this?

monte, thos clips sound good, now i dont know what muffler i want lol


i wouldnt ask him for advice again.
no u dont need any back pressure.
a single 3" would be a good set up or dual 2.5"s would be good also.

[CamaroGirl5.0]

Originally posted by chvy83z28
I was told yesterday by one of my friends that a 3 inch exhaust all the way back would be overkill because the 350's need the back pressure. can someone verify this?

Please tell me Horn wasnt the one who told you that :lmao:

[chvy83z28]

lol no tara it wasnt horn, do you actually think id ask him for advice on a car he cant even drive if he tried? lol come on give a little more credit. ok, well its settled then, this is what im going to do, i think, get the hedman 68476's and the y-pipe 17470. it has a 3 inch in and 3in out, as where the hookers y pipe is a 2.5 out. i figure for the time being im gonna get the 3in out and just get a downsize pipe to connect to my 2.5 exhaust till i get the money for the full cat back system. i think magnaflow is winning here after hearing the clips from monte, thanks again, it sounds nice :)

[MonteC]

no problem.

[chvy83z28]

ok, this might sound dumb, the magnaflow system they have there says 93-02 i dont see why not it wont fit on my 3rd gen considering its the same damn thing except probably the pipe size correct? the hangers should be in the same spots, if anyone knows let me know thank you :)

[MonteC]

ya got me there, im not a big f body guy. im guessing its 4th gen specific for a reason. :shrug: