Things do not look good for the RS

[ErinRS91]

Matt and I did some body work on the RS last weekend(i think lol) Um, we took the rocker panels off to see what kind of rust damage I had. I knew i had some but i didnt know the extent of it. The fenders themselves had some surface rust, which didnt look so bad. Nothing major so i was relieved. However we came across some major damage which sucks. Its not on the fender itself but behind it on the frame i would think? If i open the door and look in between the door and the body that's where the damage is. 1 large hole about 3 inches in length on each side of the front fender/firewall. Soft spot on the both rocker panels. Kinda shot down any dream of getting my car painted which totally sucks. Brought tears to my eyes lol. It's not work fixin, i know the body shop will not attempt to repair it. So i'm just gonna try to sell it. I dont wanna keep it knowing the extent of the rust damage, and it's not worth painting it. I'm mad cuz so much work was done on it engine wise. :( I wanna try to sell it for about $3500 and take that money i have saved for a paint job and use it for buying a new 3rd gen. I like to get an IROC convertible or try finding a 92 25th anniversary. I even considered parting it all out, might get more for it that way but i dont have the time to do so. It's so upsetting cuz i really wanted to eventually show my car but i got the whole winter to look at my options.
I'll post some pictures.
Is it a sport coupe? No it's the RS with out the GFX

[ErinRS91]

a little surface rust never hurt any body

[ErinRS91]

but this hurts

[ErinRS91]

:cry: this is the passenger side. above was the driver side front inner fender

[Mkos1980]

Theres holes on both sides, a hole in the driver side rocker panel and a hole in the pas side front 1/4. I wasnt too shocked to see the hole in the rocker but those big holes surprised me. withonly 55K on the car they must have parked it in a salt shed.

[ErinRS91]

it looks 10 times as worse with the picture blown up lol. It's bad though :(

[chainsaw]

fuck..... :mad:

[My1stCamaro92RS]

After all the hard work you guys have done on the car, what a shame to see these shots. The weather and use of salt in this area definitely has done a number on the car. Hopefully you can get that amount for the car when you sell it. :(

[nicksLB9]

wtf people!? you jsu tput all that work into the car and now a few little rust holes are going to stop you from enjoying it.... they are very easy to reapir if you go to the right place... not jsut some Insurance-approved body shop.

[TPI383]

exactally what nick said... get a welder. learn to weld and patch it yourself.

[Mkos1980]

Originally posted by nicksLB9
wtf people!? you jsu tput all that work into the car and now a few little rust holes are going to stop you from enjoying it.... they are very easy to reapir if you go to the right place... not jsut some Insurance-approved body shop.

? is how MUCH is all the body work doing to cost. If she can sell it for 3-3500 and put down 2000 somewhere else, theres a MINT All orgional 350 t top Iroc a few miles away for 5500. Why would you wan tto take on a bigger project if you dont have too. All we hav eto work with is a 1/2 garage thats it. You cant even open the doors in the garage let alone remove panels and start welding which we have no idea how to do or fabricate anything. If you feel you can repair all the rust, patch holes, replace rocker and 1/4 and paint the whole car for cheap, by all means go for it. I called around this morning already and 4 of the 6 shops I called do not even touch rust and the ones who do do surface rust and minor work only. One place on sprague said if you want the whole car done it would take while since in and out cars and claims make more of a business for us. He said its basically hourly working on those projects and he wouldnt be surprised to see 3000-3500 in just body work alone. Basically 8 days working on it for 8 hours a day and 50 bucks an hour. + we havent even removes the whole 1/4 yet. Who knows what else lies beneigth.

[87IROC Z]

That really sucks. Same thing happened to me with the berlinetta, except luckily i really had nothing invested in that yet. If you can get that much for the RS it might be worth it to just move on to the iroc.

[nicksLB9]

You guys had enough skill and enthusiasm to install an L98 in the car and make it run well, but you're afraid to learn how to do a few patches? Look at it this way, you can make the rust any worse, it just gets better!

If the rear wheelwells were rotted and seperated, the inner rockers were rotted from front to back, door bottoms were missing, and the upper cowl was rotting, then i would agree with you and say ditch it. Doesnt sound that bad to me. Btw, body time avgs $35/hr, mechanical is $55.

[nightrider]

putting an engine in a car doesn't require skill or technique. TO do it fast and easy with little swearing, yeah there is skill there but an engine swap isn't tough at all. EVen if you have no clue how to do it, marking things and unbolting things will get you there eventually.

Body work is an art. But it wouldn't have to look all that good if its covered by the rockers anyways. I wouldn't pay a shop. I wouldn't dump a car you bought for 7k and put a thousand dollar motor in for 3500 dollars. You've got too much money in it to quit now. Talk to someone who can weld.... Gary just put new floors in his bird, give him a ring. I'm sure some beer and pizza could get you pretty far with a guy who can weld and is willing to give it a shot. I'm not saying that is Gary, just giving an example.

[TPI383]

hehe I see Im choped liver hu jay. I put my cage in. Im doing my mini tubs and I just went from T-tops to Vert with my Z. body work is easy. fun and gratifing to say YEp I did it myself.

Just not enough time in the day to get shit done as quick as I like. :(

[ErinRS91]

All i know that it's gonna be one hell of a project to fix that rust due to the location. My only option for getting it fixed is shop. I personally do not know anybody that welds. Actually my uncle can but he's still learing and just doing basic stuff and i know for a fact he wont touch my car, he told me a while back the car wasnt worth fixin. if i knew how to do body work, i'd do it myself! lol

[nightrider]

Well i didn't forget about ya...

I'm writing up a resume as we speak, so i can get a shitty little job up here and guarantee myself the money i need to finish up the turbo system and order that cage this christmas... i won't forget about ya when the cage comes ;) but i do seriously need your help to do atleast part of it.

[85zeee]

Nightrider whos cage are you lookin at?

[TPI383]

Originally posted by 85zeee
Nightrider whos cage are you lookin at?

Mine... Comp. Eng 6 point. Well 8 but I didnt put the tranny tunnel ones in.

http://www.cecoatings.com/images/CarStuff/92Z/targa%20to%20vert%20pics/Targa%20to%20Vert.jpg

http://www.cecoatings.com/images/CarStuff/92Z/targa%20to%20vert%20pics/DSC01116.JPG

[85zeee]

I have been lookin at the S&W I want the back seat and the low side bars!

[Rippin_91RS]

i agree with nick..thats not enough rust to get rid of..ur bound to find someone who knows how to fix it for cheap without havn to worry about a shop..theres enough of us on these boards to know someone...if your dream is to have a show car..u'll find it alot easier to do this one...since if you buy a new one you gotta start allllllllllll over...i say cut it and mud it..then drink a beer

[nightrider]

i was looking at that too. but by the time i get the special side bars (which might not even be NHRA legal???) my cage has gone fgrom a sub 200 dollar job to a 300 dollar one.

the way chris installed his, although not really legal, is fine with me. the bars are low enough that i can get in and out easily enough.

[85zeee]

I am not to worried about it being legal, more at keeping the armrest and making it a little easier for the kids to get in an out of the back seat.

[nightrider]

I wouldn't be putitng kids in the backseat of ANY CAR WITH A ROLL CAGE. unless of course you aren't installing the loop brace for 5 point harnesses... I don't want to think about what might happen in an accident if you smacked your head on that beam.

[87IROC Z]

Originally posted by nightrider
I wouldn't be putitng kids in the backseat of ANY CAR WITH A ROLL CAGE. unless of course you aren't installing the loop brace for 5 point harnesses... I don't want to think about what might happen in an accident if you smacked your head on that beam.

Roll bar padding would be a good thing.

[TPI383]

16inches is all you have from seat back to hoop bar.
http://www.cecoatings.com/images/CarStuff/92Z/4thGenDash/forDaz.jpg

[85zeee]

Ya I wasn't going to put in the cross brace....... I can't wear a regular seat belt a 5 point is def out of the question for the street.... I can always put it in at some point in the future.

[85zeee]

Sorry erin didn't intend to jack your thread

[2camaros]

Damn, that just SUCKS! I dont really know what you should do... You put all the money into the car, you should TRY to fix it...after all its hidden, so if it looks like shit you could still sell it...

This is the very reason why I doubt I'll keep the IROC much longer than next Summer... Its a northern car.

[ErinRS91]

Originally posted by 85zeee
Sorry erin didn't intend to jack your thread

hey, no problem. dont matter to me

[nightrider]

Originally posted by 87IROC Z
Roll bar padding would be a good thing.

Yeah and no. I still wouldn't want someone's head or body getting slammed into that bar...regardless of padding.

[Spdfrk1990]

Ahh I cant believe you Sold it because of some rust. I just found some rust in my car but nothing that cant be fixed yours could of been worse though. I would of fixed it if you were close to cincinnati. I decided mine is now becoming a show car and its not even getting driven in the rain.

[Mkos1980]

Originally posted by Spdfrk1990
I would of fixed it if you were close to cincinnati.

You want the chassis?

[Spdfrk1990]

No thanks no use for just a chassis right now really getting into mine and will be spending alot of money on it.