cops speeding

[fullcollapse]

well i got tired of police officers speeding at 3am in the morning for no obvious reason with no lights on..(on my way home from work) so i started taking tag #'s lol.. .. not gonna do much prolly ... but im tired of everybody rolling on the speedtrap down the street and cops flyin by me... and passin on shoulder of road.. (crazy stuff) .. well ive got tag #'s down and what they have done... would sending to someone help anything ? .. or would it just be pointless and they throw it away .. ? .. i figure maybe like a mayor or chief of police maybe... but im seriously tired of police officers almost causing traffic accidents for no reason.. ? will this do any good or am i just wastin time ?

corey

[THETANK]

Police officers may or may not speed in your araea. What the public does not understand is that policy often only allows police officers to go code in certain instances such as armed robbery a TA with injuries etc... Police officers get called to many calls that require the officer to expediate response, however these same officers are not authorized to travel with lights and sirens.

[firecop]

Also, to put it in simple terms, an officer may "break" the law to enforce the law.

[fullcollapse]

so some (hint some) of these police officers maybe speeding for an emergency but dont turn they're lights on because there is no injurys or it doesnt require immediate response... ?

corey

[firecop]

It could be all of them. (hint could)

You prove which ones are not.

[fullcollapse]

it could be none of them ;)

[chainsaw]

here's an example...

a police officer is called to a domestic dispute. does he stop outside the house with lights and sirens wailing? of course not. that puts the person who called the dispute in danger of being hurt, or killed.

[TC]

The Tank is 100% correct. Here's a great example. Say you hear a noise outside. You get up and look out your window and you see a guy ripping out your car stereo after smashing out your window. You want the cops there quick, right? Bad news, in my department you're not authorized code for that. By policy I would have to do the speed limit and obey all traffic control devices.

In reality, I'm not going to do that. I am going to reasonably speed and might turn my lights on at intersections and turn them back off when I get on the other side. Catching the bad guys is important to us, but keeping our jobs is even more important. I'm not going to wreck out running code to a property crime in contrast to what my general orders says.

Now, with that being said, yes, some drive like complete assholes for no reason. We've got one officer that hauls ass EVERYWHERE. He could be going to lunch, hauling ass. Could be going to get a cup of coffee.....yep, hauling ass. You'd swear he's running to hot calls all night long. Even when he runs code I've seen him doing in excess of 100mph in RESIDENTIAL areas! He's going to kill himself and/or someone else.

If you see an officer doing something REALLY stupid and wreckless, feel free to call the station and report it to a patrol supervisor. If the officer had a good reason for doing it, he'll be in the clear with no problems.

[Jimmy_mac]

Originally posted by TC

Now, with that being said, yes, some drive like complete assholes for no reason. We've got one officer that hauls ass EVERYWHERE. He could be going to lunch, hauling ass. Could be going to get a cup of coffee.....yep, hauling ass. You'd swear he's running to hot calls all night long. Even when he runs code I've seen him doing in excess of 100mph in RESIDENTIAL areas! He's going to kill himself and/or someone else.

If you see an officer doing something REALLY stupid and wreckless, feel free to call the station and report it to a patrol supervisor. If the officer had a good reason for doing it, he'll be in the clear with no problems.

Firtst post alert!!!!

I work about 1/4 of a mile away from a police academy. And guess what I see every day going to work. Cops passing me while I'm doing about 70 mph in a 65 mph. And guess were they are going. That's right, to the police academy. To work. I would estimate that out of all the ones I see going there about 10% are noticebly speeding. That is a low number but IMO none of em should be.

On the bright side 90% are doing the right thing. Sounds like your are one of the 90% TC. Thanks for being out there and being honest.

[Error404]

my father was driving on a road one time, and was about to make a left turn (2 lane road, 1 lane for each direction) and a cop flew by him very fast in the left lane (on comming traffic's lane) and almost smashed right into my fathers truck, and my dad even had his blinker on. The cop had no lights or or siren on, didn't even honk his horn. :conf:

if my father wouldn't have glanced in his mirror, he would have turned and the cop would have t-boned him right there, probably doing about 80 or so.

[Evil Cartman]

When the cops here go fast to a call, they usually turn on their amber light bar that faces to the rear. Doesn't help if they're coming at you though LOL I've gone on a couple ride alongs and the cops have always been cool. One is actually a friend of mine but he's retired now, doh. Some of them do tend to speed a bit but so does most anyone. 25 mph down the main street feels like at any second and old lady in a wheelchair is going to pass you up. Sometimes she does, while driving a van LOL

[ChicagoTransAm]

I know this post is kinda old...and sorry about bumping it back up...but I just wanted to toss in my .02

First of all, it is not legal for an officer to break the law in order to uphold the law. Police are legally allowed to pursue a crime scene without emergency lights with extreme caution. (Can show case studies where this is evident)

Now, with that being said.....

Ever worked at Circuit City/Best Buy? You get a discount on items right?

Worked at a cellular company? Free service? :)

I consider what the police to be doing (in general) ... a good service for our towns,states and country. I know it can be bothersome to see cops "getting away" with it all....But consider this ...Getting out of tickets and such is another "perk" of the job? Again, this is just my opinion...and some (or all) of the officers & civils will not agree. But ask them if they ever got out of a ticket when opening their wallet and gently shoving the badge flap over. :angel:

[TC]

Originally posted by ChicagoTransAm
But ask them if they ever got out of a ticket when opening their wallet and gently shoving the badge flap over. :angel:

There is a larger issue than "professional courtesy." When an officer writes an officer from another department, it creates animosity between the two departments. 9 times out of 10, ticket wars ensue where each department has hard ons for writing officers in the other department for traffic violations. Do you know what this accomplishes? Nothing positive. It breaks down the trust and communication between the two departments. Eventually one department will have to depend on the other to assist in investigations within their jurisdiction. What sort of reception will they receive with such animosity present? Not a very warm one. Soooo, it's best not to tinker with a well oiled machine by writing an officer from another department a ticket. You have to look at the bigger picture. The bigger picture that goes beyond that single traffic ticket.

[crazeinc]

So what you're saying is cops are basically just children that get to wear uniforms? Oh, we can't write other cops tickets because then they'll write us tickets and then we both can't play in the same sandbox. How much more juvenile can you get :roll:

[FivePointSlow]

Originally posted by crazeinc
So what you're saying is cops are basically just children that get to wear uniforms? Oh, we can't write other cops tickets because then they'll write us tickets and then we both can't play in the same sandbox. How much more juvenile can you get :roll:


Pretty much. Its just like high school, only the stakes are higher.

But almost every job/ profession is like that.

Get used to it.

[Iceman]

Originally posted by Error404
my father was driving on a road one time, and was about to make a left turn (2 lane road, 1 lane for each direction) and a cop flew by him very fast in the left lane (on comming traffic's lane) and almost smashed right into my fathers truck, and my dad even had his blinker on. The cop had no lights or or siren on, didn't even honk his horn. :conf:

if my father wouldn't have glanced in his mirror, he would have turned and the cop would have t-boned him right there, probably doing about 80 or so.

I'm not going to say that this was OK, as part of the reason for hurrying up is to get there & not create a problem by getting involved with an accident (which we have had happen).

Although we have laws prohibiting passing or near an intersection, it is also the responsibility of the driver making the turn to make sure it can be made in safety. Say that your dad was turning left into his driveway, & got t-boned by anyone. If it was not a no-passing zone, your father could be tagged for "Improper Turn From Direct Course".

I personally have worked accidents where this occurred, & at intersections I have cited both drivers: 1 for Passing in the Intersection, & the other for Improper Turn From Direct Course.

[defcondaze]

so when your about to turn in ur driveway w/ blinker on breaking slowing down , if some one decides to slam into you when u start to make their turn ... its your fault ?

[MrDude_1]

Originally posted by defcondaze
so when your about to turn in ur driveway w/ blinker on breaking slowing down , if some one decides to slam into you when u start to make their turn ... its your fault ?


yup.



well it can be... but 90% of the time, its assumed yes.


just like if you hit the back end of any other car with the front of yours, regardless of how it happend, most people assume is your fault.



i worked as a firefighter for 4 years and ive been to several scenes where this(turning guys fault thing) happened... i dont always agree with it either, and niether does the cop.... but he just follows the rules...

[defcondaze]

Originally posted by MrDude_1
yup.




just like if you hit the back end of any other car with the front of yours, regardless of how it happend, most people assume is your fault.





but its like if you slam in to the back of some one its now their fault , if you can slam into the side of them and it be their fault

[ChicagoTransAm]

This thread is like a bad girlfriend you break up with....just when you thought you had heard the last....it comes back. Ugh